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WoodElf
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Trekking with out a firearm Reply with quote

I am a Boy Scout leader and am curious if there is any background, information or documentation of backcountry treks or rambles without firearms.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All depends on the WHO/WHAT/WHERE/WHEN.


Fur Trade employees of the Great Lakes (post F&I) were usually unarmed.

Descriptions of the colonial South say that in the backwoods areas, nobody went unarmed.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather go without clothing than go to the woods without a firelock....

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of work did the trade employees do?
Has anyone any information on the Naturalists of the period?
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the exception of the Legend of Johnny Appleseed, I can't think of anybody who went about on the frontier unarmed. Even Quakers had firearms for hunting, they simply would not pull a trigger on a human being. It's not confirmd btw that John Chapman, aka Appleseed went about unarmed..., that's just the legendary image.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoodElf wrote:
What kind of work did the trade employees do?


Mostly transporting of goods. Paddling canoes, driving batteaux (flat-bottomed boats capable of carrying tons of cargo with a shallow draft) in the north or handling pack trains in the south. Portaging goods.

Direct trading was often done at fortified posts in some places. Others went to villages. The basic employee may/may not have been armed depending on circumstance and place.


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Has anyone any information on the Naturalists of the period?


There were many observers/travelers during the period. But most of them (or the parties they traveled with) were armed.


Peter Kalm comes to mind for 1740s NY and Canada.

Nicholas Cresswell, Charles Woodmason (minister/missionary) in the south.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most naturalists killed the birds and critters they were documenting and painting so they could study details up close. Audubon was quite a good shooter.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read Kalm's journals , they are easily found. The question of whether he was armed or not , I don't recall. J Long's journals are a good refrence for observations but he was a English Trader right after the Rev.
Father Jogues was probably unarmed and in the wilderness, but I wouldn't want to reenact his fate , unless you want your Boy Scouts to torture you inthe Iroquoian fashion.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would be the only people I could think of myself (the jesuits) however even they were often guided by either natives or traders who were armed.
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