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Hawkeye
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: crutches -back to squre one... Reply with quote

anyone have experience with or making of period crutches?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I had a sprang ankle and friend of mine made one for me using a fork from a tree limb. He took the bark off so it would not have any rough spots and cover the fork with a strip of hair on deer skin in order to make it easy on my under arm. It worked great although it was rather tiring using it as the crutch had no previsions for a place to use my hand like a modern crutch would.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to this site:

http://www.thecountryladyantiques.com/products.php

Scroll down near the end. (couldn't get the picture to work by itself)

It doesn't look incredibly comfortable, but it looks like it would work.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don, I saw that, but disregarded everything on that site as 80% there are new made items.
Just look at the candle sticks and such.
I like how the ads for sale are phrased ...made from 18th c wood.
Translated, they used salvaged wood to make new stuff.

I fear that crutch is in the same catagory.
I've not seen any with that much of a crook, though it may be worth trying.
I'm thinking colonel Tubbs made from him may have a similar length to the arm crook.
just click on this;
http://www.thecountryladyantiques.com/images/products/2_2_09/crutch_09

BTW, anyone contacting me on facebook, have patience. I can't always get to that site from my log in locations. (gets caught in the filters on free access locations.)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crutches were a turned or planed pole with a cross bar morticed in at the top, then the tennon is planed smooth. the contact parts should be well scraped to avoid blisters. Check Hogarths print's for illustrations.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.
I may end up having to stay with the modern ones.
I'm not getting along well with this moc up set...

The Doctor just called today with the results of the MRI.
The knee is torn up inside.
I'll be going under the knife.

Back to squre one.

IMPRESSION: (shortened)
1. Complex tear ...........of the lateral meniscus with a large
polylobulated meniscal cyst.
4. Remote strain of the medial collateral ligament

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: crutches Reply with quote

I dont know if its too late but go to the woodwrights shop on the net and theres a show where they build a set...Hellbilly
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if you hadnt jumped from that waterfall to avoid capture by that huron war party, your leg/knee wouldnt be tore up. you wouldve just been scalped and roasted at the stake. not so sure its a good trade off though! sorry about your keg though, hopefully it will be better after the surgery. hars luck. i remember seeing one like colonel tubbs described. dont remeber where though. the tree limb is a sound idea you'll just have to pad the heck out of it to avoid any discomfort.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crutches were a turned or planed pole with a cross bar morticed in at the top, then the tennon is planed smooth. the contact parts should be well scraped to avoid blisters. Check Hogarths print's for illustrations.


Add handles morticed into the pole as a "T" pointed forward. The weight is supposed to be mostly on the hands not the underarm for comfort.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkeye: Do not fear the surgery. I had arthroscopic surgery on my left knee for a meniscus tear in February. Full recovery.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what a google image search turned up.

http://www.ssplprints.com/image.php?imgref=10320266

Small wooden leper crutches, posibly English, c 18th century.

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The disease of leprosy was believed to be highly infectious, with symptoms including sores, ulcers, erosion of the bones and los of sensation at the nerve endings. The effects of the disease were often crippling, and these crutches would have been used for support. People were so afraid of leprosy that, since Biblical times, lepers had been outcasts. During the Middle Ages the Church sanctioned the building of thousands of 'lazarettos' or leper houses outside towns, to keep lepers isolated from the rest of the community.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wm. Powell wrote:
Hawkeye: Do not fear the surgery. I had arthroscopic surgery on my left knee for a meniscus tear in February. Full recovery.


I literally tore my knee cap off a few years ago... Gotta 10" saber scar to show for it. Slowed me down some. Good luck and if they are gonna cut you wide open and promise "no cast".... They LIE!!!<G>
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They lie anyway, and ignore what you tell them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, I just got this email from Mary Adams about this eight year old thread:

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From: M. Spencer
Email: counrtyladyantiques@yahoo.com

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Back in 2009 one of your members on your Historical Trekking site posted the message copied and pasted below. Though he does not know us and has never bothered to contact us, he lied and disparaged our business on your PUBLIC SITE.
I have just emailed him the following:
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It is very unfortunate that you are so ignorant that you deliberately malign and disparage someone's business without every checking your facts, or contacting them.
In the first place, that crutch you referred to was 100% old, not a copy.

We sell guaranteed 17th/18thc. antiques, which comprises 99% of our business. We have in the past been fortunate to be able to salvage 18thc. wood that my husband then used to craft A FEW reproduction ACCESSORIES, and we clearly stated them as such.
Not everyone can afford all antiques in their home. Our handcrafted reproductions were in no way misrepresented as you insinuated, nor do they compromise more than a small fraction of our inventory. They are well made, and compliment those interiors of customers who love antiques but can't buy everything old. (Look online and you will see whole businesses creating reproduction everything. You probably use them in your reenacting.)
We are very respected longtime dealers as well as historical reenactors and public speakers, presenting a variety of historical costumed programs.
I can't even begin to tell you what a sleazy, ignorant, sob I think you are. I do believe in karma though, and I think somewhere down the line you will pay for your cavalier and totally inaccurate and undeserved condemnation of our business, and your obvious gross stupidity.
M. Spencer"

I can only reiterate that it is unfortunate that you have a public forum that allows people to falsely accuse honest people and businesses of fraud. We once got your magazine, but never would now, and we're certainly going to let others know about all of this.
M. Spencer





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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Don, I saw that, but disregarded everything on that site as 80% there are new made items.
Just look at the candle sticks and such.
I like how the ads for sale are phrased ...made from 18th c wood.
Translated, they used salvaged wood to make new stuff.

I fear that crutch is in the same catagory.
I've not seen any with that much of a crook, though it may be worth trying.
I'm thinking colonel Tubbs made from him may have a similar length to the arm crook.
just click on this;
http://www.thecountryladyantiques.com/images/products/2_2_09/crutch_09

BTW, anyone contacting me on facebook, have patience. I can't always get to that site from my log in locations. (gets caught in the filters on free access locations.)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a strange one. Sort of sounds like she is validating exactly what was said about her site. And complaining that it was said.
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