shooting bags natives would have used

[eseabee1]

I am looking for examples of bags that the native americians would have used to carry their stuff in for their firearms I would lik eto make one to go with the horn I made

[Michael Galban]

I would go with a "slit" pouch. Pouchot mentions them specifically for hunting or war.

So the Native would carry powder horn, slit pouch (one side for shot the other for ball - Pouchot) and gun.

Those quilled and fingerwoven bags are probably NOT for hunting or war.

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[eseabee1]

I know that the quill and beadwork was not used for war that much I did know because of the only grandfather I knew told me that he was native american....they were more for ceremonies and well special occasions thanks for the info

[Mario]

Here's one being carried over the horn:





Mike, what about this one that Brant's wearing?

ca 1790, IIRC



Mario

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[Michael Galban]

Good image if you're doing 1807. Plus I think it might be one of the western great lakes double quill panel bags which we see in the Rhindisbacher images so frequently. Brant did get around.

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[Isaac]

[Michael Galban]

Ike,

As we say all the time when looking at period images.....it MIGHT be....LOL.

It does have similarities to those GL bags - and this is one of the only instances where an Iroquois is wearing a quilled bag. Hard to put quilled bags in Iroquois hands during the 18th c.

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[Singer]

where would the green and blue facepaint come from (Artistic License?)curious...
Doing reading on Ojibwe bandolier bags.. they (authors) say "prior to 18th century the bags were constructed of buckskin, moose hide or "finger weaved" from plant fiber, and or constructed of wool blanket scraps...red being favored, but dark blue the most common" also that prior to 18th they were functional as hunting/rifle bags, with a top slit, or small flap and not highly decorated. But in the 1800's they became more of a status symbol and used as decoration with elaborate beadwork and loom work on the straps and at that time the bags became non funtional

[Michael Galban]

where is the info on bags written?

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[Singer]

ummmm i think i was the nebraska historical assoc.site..they have a large collection of Ojibwe bags. twas during search of "1700's Ojibwe Bandolier Bags" i believe was the google i used. It was a museum collection...it was 4 am...minds foggy.

[Singer]

http://www.nebraskahistory.org/images/sites/mnh/bandolier_bags/w23.jpg

Fingerwoven bag circa 1860s

[Singer]

Ummmm....still wondering about the green and blue face paint in the pictures.

Michael, I'm having trouble retracing my journey through the net to find the info...

[broken crow]

Sorry but am I still missing something? I found no reference to anything 18th C on this web site? Am I pushing the wrong keys?????
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[Luke MacGillie]

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