on the trail

[Jason]

[Mario]

[Condé]

I have had no trouble with OTT for several years now. When there was trouble patience always solved it. Going back 2 or more years to get the baggage is not about the problems it is about wanting to carry baggage.

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Condé
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." -- Mark Twain

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Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"If you are gonna be dumb you better be tough"

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www.condetrading.com

[AxelP]

I am not sure jason is turnng a new leaf or has learned anything from his past mistakes in poor communication or customer service. Talk is cheap.

BUT life is too short, and we all miss "perfect" by a far piece. He is coming to us on his own forum with hat in hand.... gotta respect that.

I am willing to give the guy a new chance. His magazine has been less than great from a design standpoint (opinion), but the content is interesting and quite readable. Maybe with Bill's help and using the infrastructure already in place for Muzzleloader, he will be able to create a better product, ship it in a timely manner, and solve his customer service issues.

I hope so! I wish you the best jason, I really do. I'd be willing to help give some design suggestions pro-bono with no strings. email me if you are interested. I'd sure like to see this pub be successful.

K

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I Hate Rabbits...

[42flint]

Back when Jason was having trouble with his magizine he said no one would loose any money and was true to his word as far as I know. The new muzzleloader is a very nice issue and if thats what the future holds, GREAT. For thouse who do not take it you are screwing yourself out of some good reading and education. To the Future!

[Tom Black]

Jason,
I'm behind you on this 100%. Never forget there is no statute of limitations on atomic wedgy's.
Tom Black
Cantucky

[Willis Creek]

Well, Ive subscribed to Muzzleloader since 1979 off and on. Taken OTT for two yrs. Like them both. Think Jason has the sand to keep ML up to snuff. I also think some folks just like to bellyache. If you ain't having fun with this, you aint doing it right. Maybe ought to take up knitting or something.

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Those who would sacrifice freedom for security will end up with neither.

[AxelP]

Managing and keeping a magazine that has a pretty small and fluctuating subscription has got to be very difficult. With dependence upon volunteer articles and images... The begining is sure to be rocky unless one has a huge amount of capital. I'd guess that Jason has gone thru the gaunlet and has the scars to prove it. He has survived so far. But it has been a bumpy ride it seems...

I'd like to see Muzzleloader Mag continue to grow and thrive after this transition...as well as the other pubs out there that entertain the hobby.

Willis, knitting has several great magazines that have been around for quite a while and have pretty good design/layouts. I bet they are delivered on time, and the advertisers and the readers are quite happy. But the magazine is not the generator of happiness in the hobby of knitting, and neither is a magazine the reason we enjoy our hobby. If it was, I would have saved a lot of money and time--- and just sat on the couch and flipped pages. instead of actually going out and doing it.

I guess I do not equate the demise of one magazine as the end of what I enjoy doing. Magazines come and go. I hope this one will grow and thrive.

But in saying that, I will add that it will not grow or thrive unless it keeps the readers and the advertisers engaged and happy.

K

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I Hate Rabbits...

[Adam Wetherington]

Got my latest copy of ML today, right on schedule. Looks Really good Jason! Best wishes!

Adam

[boone]

Jason - Rec'd my first issue of the "New Muzzleloader" today and, in general, it is well enough done. The article mix was good, color repro gets a B+
(some badly washed out), the TVM advert was messed up somehow, but
this issue is clearly a fine continuation of the ML style and quality.

I wrote two articles for Bill and very much enjoyed working with him - excellent communication as we put them together, good edit (very little needed), and the final product was something to be pleased with.

You got big shoes to fill here, but I think you are up to it and can continue the fine work of past years. I also hope you do not lose some of the "backwoods flavor" of OTT - while imperfect in some ways, it had a quality that I think plays well in this field.

Bill passed on another article of mine, that he had accepted but not yet run, and I sure hope you give it a look. I very much enjoy the writing and
would like to continue, should you desire.

Meanwhile, best to you and the New Age of Muzzleloader..

With regards,

Boone

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Col Boone

[shorthunter]

Jason. Good luck with all of this. You have always been straight forward with your replies to me and are a true gentelman. As for some of those who have beaten your name around like a dog's chew toy..... Well just look at some of their postings on FF and other sites and you will understand that no matter what you say it will NOT be to their liking. I like your idea of sitting down face to face and talking out problems with those people but you will find that most of those who fame others on internet sites like this one will not do it face to face. Remember what my Dad always said "Don't get in a pissing match with a skunk". He also stated to me that when you take money for services, some people feel they own you and your name too. Good luck in the future and you will always be a first rate stand up guy to me. Chuck

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A man never stands as tall as when he bends down to help a child.

[Crooked River]

I never subscribed to On the Trail, but I have been a subscriber to Muzzleloader for years. Jason has been at the helm for the past two or three issues, I believe, and the transition has been seamless. The same writers, same columns, same editorial content and quality have continued. I do see a few new names in the "Prime Possibles" product review section, and maybe a few more color photos, but these are the only changes I have noticed. The magazine has continued to arrive on time and in good shape. The plastic wrap, incidentally, is a good thing. I hope this continues, also.

The Scurlocks did an outstanding job with Muzzleloader for many years, and by all appearances, Jason has received and is carrying the baton. I will continue to subscribe, and will cheerfully recommend it to traditional blackpowder shooters and history buffs.

Brent

[Jason]

Brent,
Thank you very much! I a glad that you are enjoying MUZZLELOADER.

The new names you are seeing are the staff writers from On The Trail. OTT was similar to MUZZLELOADER except it had a much tighter focus. Any article that was printed in OTT would have worked in ML, but not vice-versa.

I agree with you, it was a great magazine while Bill & Linda were publishing it (I had been a subscriber since 1995). Aside from a few tweaks... Mainly making it full color. I don't plan on changing anything else. All of the same writers are staying on board and we're going to keep publishing the same kind of articles and same variety of articles.

Thank you,
Jason

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Jason W. Gatliff
Historical Enterprises

Publisher:
HistoricalTrekking.com
MUZZLELOADER Magazine

[Walking Crow]

There we have it,, now grab a "Snicker" and relax...Some have identified a/the problem, as they see it,,however they failed to post a solution !!!
One should never come down from the mountain and tell those who fought the battle how they should have fought it.
I don't subscribe to OTT but I did get 60 back issues in a blanket trade,,lots to read,,,