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.40 caliber for big game hunting?

 
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Schimmel
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: .40 caliber for big game hunting? Reply with quote

I just wanted to know what everyone thought about using a .40 caliber for hunting big game. When I say big game I am not thinking the BIG old grizzly that is eating all the bear bait at my buddies bait stand, but deer, elk, and black bear in the lower 48.

Also what are your state regulations for muzzleloader seasons? Is the 40 caliber big enough for your state to hunt big game?

Oh, in Alaska it must be at least a .54 caliber round ball and unfortunately you cannot shoot grizzly over bait where I live, he sure would make a nice rug.
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: .40 cal Reply with quote

Schimmel,

I know in most lower 48 states a .50cal ML is the minimum for large game. A few states might allow .45 cal, but I'm not sure. If you kept the range short and had good shot placement I'm sure a .40 cal would do the trick. But personnally I wouldn't want to take a chance on wounding an animal and not making a clean kill. Just my two cents.

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.40 caliber will take whitetail, especially in the Mid Atlantic states (they tend to be lighter than say northern NY or PA). It is legal here. I am not so sure about mule deer out west. As for Elk or Moose, nope. I mean of course you could kill an elk with a very close head shot with a .40, but if you are that close..., why not just him 'im with a 3-pound hammer and save the ammo?

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: .40 cal Reply with quote

Here in Minnesota and in Wisconsin, .40 is the legal minimum caliber to hunt deer in a rifled gun. You can really up the killing power of a .40 if you use a conical bullet instead of a round ball. .40 balls weigh about 85 grains, and because of the ballistic limitations of a round ball, they lose velocity and killing power fairly quickly. Most riles will stabilize a conical bullet, even "slow twist" barrels. A little experimentation with different bullets and loads can have you shooting a bullet twice the weight with much more killing power and very good accuracy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending where and when you hunt, you might want to be sure that you aren't required to use a patched, round ball..., or..., maybe if you paper patched the conical in the .40 that would qualify as a "patched projectile".

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: .40 Cal. Reply with quote

Most states have regulations concerning minimum hunting calibers.Mine is .45.The .40 is a squirrel rifle,not suitable for much else unless you are Daniel Boone.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use it all the time killed a few deer and a black bear. About a bazillion rabbits. You want to hit them in the head. put a .40 cal hole through the lungs it'll die. The bear was a head shot 25 yds.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO, a 40 would be ok for deer, if the shot is well placed, but too small for black bear or elk. Definitely too small for moose.

The 54 is the legal minimum for elk, in most states that have an elk season, so I suggest at least the minimum caliber that is legal for the largest game you intend to hunt. IMHO, bigger is better, especially for retaining velocity and energy at longer ML ranges.

Personally, for general hunting in Alaska, I would go with a 58 or 60.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject: .40 Reply with quote

Here in pennsylvania I believe the ball size has to be .44 caliber, so the rifle has to be .45 caliber. Personally for whitetail deer and black bear I use a .50 caliber shooting a .490 ball ( 177 grain ).


I do use my .40 caliber longrifle with a .395 ball ( 92 grain r/b ) for turkey, squirrel, rabbit, coyote, fox, and it does a good job.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: 40 FOR ELK Reply with quote

Short answer NO!!!! Please have some mercy for the critter your trying to kill and use enough gun.Minimum of 54cal with a minimum of 100 gr 2 f for elk. For deer Minimum of 50cal with a powder charge of 70gr of 2 or 3f. Liberty

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Liberty, I gotta go with NO! As others have said, it has been done and some hunters shoot it well, but I've seen some spectacular failures with a .40 and just am not comfortable recommending it unless I know the person well and have a good sense of their abilities and knowledge of animal anatomy. Just saying!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where I hunt here behind my house, shots at deer are seldom further than 25 to 35 yds. I've only taken deer at past 50 yds a couple times, and that was shooting across a beaver pond . If I only had a .40 cal I would certainly use it. I've been tempted a couple of times , with a 60 gr charge of 3F it is pretty potent. I know of two fellows here who always use their .40's for deer and they have no complaints. Just don't try to shoot them in the rear end or use a wimpy squirrel load. For what it's worth, my wife's grandfather's deer rifle was a single shot .32 Long RF 80 grain bullet . I used my crony on it and got a vel. of just under 1000 FPS . He shot a lot of deer with that rifle, and I don't think any got away. He needed the meat.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because you can, does not mean you should. I think that is the situation was perfect then yes .40 would be fine for whitetail. However ive never encountered a perfect situation while hunting. Plus if your shot is even a little off, you are in deep doodoo. What if you hit a shouldr bone or the leg? A .40 RB would NEVER go through. I think you should go with something larger and repect the round within its effectgive limits
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A .40 is to small for deer in my opinion but it's a great caliber for coyotes, fox, and ground hogs. I got a .32, .40, .50, and a .58, my next flintlock will be a .36

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: .40 caliber for big game hunting? Reply with quote

Schimmel wrote:
I just wanted to know what everyone thought about using a .40 caliber for hunting big game. When I say big game I am not thinking the BIG old grizzly that is eating all the bear bait at my buddies bait stand, but deer, elk, and black bear in the lower 48.

Also what are your state regulations for muzzleloader seasons? Is the 40 caliber big enough for your state to hunt big game?

Oh, in Alaska it must be at least a .54 caliber round ball and unfortunately you cannot shoot grizzly over bait where I live, he sure would make a nice rug.

No minimum here in Texas as far as muzzle loaders go, and if I was practiced with my 40 caliber rifle I would, if the conditions where I hunt were right, take whitetail deer and hogs with it. Take into your perspective that every situation is different, as is the person contemplating pulling the trigger. One size does not fit all. When I go hunting I take my .54, not because of it's size, velocity or energy but because right now it's my most accurate rifle and I've practiced with it the most. I am confident when I shoot it. Once I put some more shots (a lot more actually) through my other rifles, which are 50 calibers, that may change.
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