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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Charred cloth (charcloth!) as Tinder? Reply with quote

[quote="jbtusa"]Jason: I hate to rain on your fire parade, but the use of charcloth by the 1800's western fur trappers cannot be documented. However, the use of charred wood, charred punk and tinder fungus is documented. For a LONG discussion about this, see: http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/236931/[/quote]

jbtusa is quite right, and I doubt cloth was used extensively even in the 18th century, though tow rag may have been used. For more information go to: [url][url]http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com/search?q=TINDER+FUNGUS[/url][/url]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Char Cloth Reply with quote

Hello everyone. This is my first post as I just joined. I would second or third the idea that char cloth was not common. It was probably used in a home but even then a fire was not allowed to go out. Coth was costly in terms of time needed to produce. The thing I have found as a collector of antiques is that tinware of the 18th and early 19th century could not be used to char anything. The nature of the construction allowed for the thing to come completely unsoldered and fall apart when heated without fluid inside. Anything used for char material must be chared outside of a container to be authentic. If you want to use cloth, hold it with tongs and expose the cloth to a flame until it blackens. If it catches fire, blow the flames out. When black, throw it into your empty tinder box and close the lid to extinguish any fire or sparks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: fire-starting methods Reply with quote

I have seen brass tubes with cord through them as a fire-starting aid: is this documented for 1600 or 1700s?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting topic.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbtusa wrote:
Jason: I hate to rain on your fire parade, but the use of charcloth by the 1800's western fur trappers cannot be documented. However, the use of charred wood, charred punk and tinder fungus is documented. For a LONG discussion about this, see: http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/236931/


I could see how these would be true. Cloth was expensive and properly hard to get on the frontier so I can see why they wouldn't want to make it into charcloth. Punk wood and fungus were available naturally in the woods.

Stands to reason why use up a item like ( cotton cloth ) if you don't have to.

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