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help I need to find wampum for craft projects!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: help I need to find wampum for craft projects!!! Reply with quote

Can someone tell me where I can find good wampum for craft projects? Son wants to start making stuff.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Tim,

If you're looking for a good looking synthetic wampum, try these guys.

http://home.cshore.com/waaban/wampum.html

Much cheaper than the real stuff, but looks fantastic.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go here for good glass wampum.
http://silverhawkstore.webs.com/
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crazy Crow has three to choose from. Glass, real Quahog wampam, and clamshell wampam. The real stuff ain't cheap!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkey Foot trading is my favorite place.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with Silverhawk- a great store and very nice people to deal with. Always willing to give advice on a project.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks , I am sure I will find some to my liking at one of those places.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I throw my vote in for Turkey Foot. Here at the college I make all of the belts we use in our longhouse program out of glass beads from Turkey Foot. They're very nice beads to work with and the holes are pretty consistent.

Also, while I like Tara Prindle's beads (the Wabaan Naki beads) and use them for some personal projects, the glass beads from Turkey Foot are period correct. That may not mean much if it's a personal project but for something that will be used for educational purposes I prefer to go with the glass beads.

That's all for now. Take care and until next time...Be well.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glass wampum was a late answer to the real thing. It was not valued as was real wampum, I could be wrong, but I don't believe it would be appropriate for early or mid 18th c. use. There was a time when it could be used as money, and had set values according to color. If I remember correctly, it could be used to pay for a college education at Harvard.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LRB wrote:
If I remember correctly, it could be used to pay for a college education at Harvard.


It probably still can! At $5 or more per bead, even a small belt can run up quite a price. I have heard it said that the acrylic beads that the Abenaki nation sells look the closest to the original quahog wampum. I am no expert myself.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Wampum Reply with quote

Try Waaban-Aki. Tara Prindle from Nativetech runs it I think. The beads are .06 each or .04 each per 1000...Hellbilly
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will use the glass bead, before plastic ones. at least the glass can be documented.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: Wampum Reply with quote

Are they plastic. I thought they were glass...sorry, Hellbilly
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using the glass bead is ok if you intend on representing it as imitation wampum. BUT if you want to make a belt? Then if you can't afford the real thing - the Tara Prindle stuff is the closest you can get.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GASP! I've been reading on this board for several years and as a rule I've found folks on this board, as opposed to some others, vitally interested in keeping things as authentic and historically correct as possible. Now all of a sudden, some of you are endorsing the use of ACRYLIC wampum beads as an acceptable alternative to shell or glass. WOW! Has the earth fallen from orbit? Did the sun explode? Is this the end of civilization as we know it? :)

The beads from Tara Prindle are pretty but they are PLASTIC!!!! Do yourself a favor and buy your beads from Turkeyfoot Trading. I've done a bunch of "wampum" belts with their glass beads and although I'm certain that they aren't purely PC, they were a whole lot more PC than plastic, they are easy to work with and they come in several different colors (almost certainly NOT PC.) They are smaller in diameter than those that Crazy Crow sells so again, probably not PC but they do make a nice belt/garter/horn strap etc.

JMTCW

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