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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was the trianglular, or pointed, cut to the ends ED. As opposed to the squared off ends on most clouts. It seems to have been a Seminole fashion only.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I figured, but...
The triangular ends probably made the water run off better.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my breechcloth is 10 inch by 36 inch
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....good for you
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Breech Clout Reply with quote

It seems to me that we spend a lot of time looking at Euro-centric pictures for some of our "documented" sources.

We know that many documented drawings of natives at the time of contact were drawn to represent a different people with clothing articles changed to reflect the popular concept of natives. This started with the Spaniards' drawn depiction from second sources of the Carib peoples.

Granted, my experience with clouts are from the high plains and plateau peoples. One of the most patient teachers I had was from the Crow nation. He taught me to form my hands as if I were going to do a two-handed "hang loose" sign, touch both thumbs together at the tips and measure the distance between the outstretched little fingers. For the length he taught me to hold the material with both hands and let it hang down. Once the desired length is found cut it. I tend to like long buckskin clouts with a wool small clout in the back. I have stayed by this measure for years and it has not let me down (nor have I had any embarrassing mishaps).

Why not also look to archeological pictorial evidence for clouts? Could we take ideas from the shell, stone, and pottery carvings from archaic cultures and glean some wisdom there?

The great mound Chieftainships of the Mississippi Valleys were at their highest peak when DeSoto, LaSalle, and other explorers encountered the river peoples. Their arts are still with us even though diseases decimated their power. I believe archaic evidence could and should be considered on top of the printed, biased pictures and drawings from colonial eras.

Just my two cents.

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